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Old 05-04-2018, 07:43 AM
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Default False advertising by Envoy

Originally Posted by pitchattitude View Post
the company wants this to be true, they need to come to the table and make the changes to the contract to make it so. Otherwise the union needs to get a ceases and desist. File a class action lawsuit for all of us.

The company can do whatever it wants because they have their own math and reality to support their stance. Is it legal? Maybe maybe not, Grieve it.

Company gets what it wants and needs in the present at all times, until 1-2yrs after the grievance is skidded down the road. If grievance arbitrator sides with union, the “reparations” MAYBE TOO SMALL, will be far to small or late to make any difference to those affected.

Truth is company doesn’t NEED to do anything unless management:

1. Wants to- per Contract interpretation, Policy, Strategic goals.
2. Is forced to by AAG.
3. Judge/grievance arbitrators orders it.
4. Market conditions necessitates it.

ALPA as a Union is only as strong as its memberships supports it, and memberships involvement (file the grievance). APC & TalkAirline forums has its usefulness at times for both company and unions favor, but Strong membership involvement (reading the contract, calling reps & volunteer, learning from those in the union) & strong membership support of the Union (stop bad mouthing, complaining, spreading non-factual information, rumors to pilot group, bad mouthing MEC, LEC) etc. A divided union is weak union.

Company has the edge thanks to RLA. But RLA allows us a seat at the table, and market conditions gives us a little leverage (not as great a leverage as some might think).

We live in the age of instant gratification. Cards are stacked against regional pilots and meaningful progress & processes for pilots take time. Many wheels make a tuned time-clock turn. Can’t force this company into a position it does not see it needs.

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