Originally Posted by
JamesNoBrakes
That's not in the ACS or referenced.
Here is the excerpt from the ACS for privileges/limitations:
References 14 CFR parts 61, 68, 91; FAA-H-8083-2, FAA-H-8083-25
All I would expect an applicant to know is the distance/night limitation if they don't have an instrument rating, medical certificate required (2nd) and the different maintenance requirement (100hr inspection) if the aircraft is for-hire. Basically, only the stuff that is found in the references for the ACS. Anything else is not testable and the DPE should not be playing games. If something more like "holding out" is asked, this needs to be documented and brought to the attention of the local DPE manager. The offices are getting better about doing post-checkride interviews with applicants to see if the DPE followed the ACS or did something outside of it. If asked a question that is not within the ACS, the applicant should ask to stop the checkride. Do not answer the question, ask them to show you where it is included in the references/material. Get a witness. That is the best course of action, this means knowing the ACS as the instructor and as the student, but then, that's what it's all about, right?
That's like telling a cop hes wrong. Youll, be right only if he doesn't get ****ed. I had a student go for his CFII as an initial and the examiner failed him on the preflight (aircraft walk around). When they got back to fill out the pink slip, the examiner couldn't find the PTS reference (since there wasn't one) for the task that was insufficient. The DPE called his buddy manager at the FSDO and they agreed that this was a failable item and just to write something in.