Lorenzo basically destroyed what was once one of the crown jewels of an airline named Continental. Only after the board had had enough and the DOT, the airline was taken out of his hands. What you see today is twenty years of CAL getting back on its feet thanks to Hollis Harris and Gordon Bethune. Rough going. If you want another take on the subject, start a thread "What do rEAL pilots think of Lorenzo". "rEAL" stands for real Eastern pilots, not scabs or the so called crawlbacks (another subject). Go ahead Texas, try that thread on for size.