I can tell you the PRIMARY thing that achieved this AIP was negativity.

This management was NEVER, and I do mean NEVER going to agree to an expensive contract after a certain number of months or years. Real progress on the expensive cornerstone issues came only after the union declared a labor dispute, an SOP only campaign, negative media, negative social media, picketing and the fact that the airline finally began to lose pilot good will and losing their helpers. Wall Street also understands labor discontent, and was beginning to put pressure on the company, because of angry pilots! In other words, when the group finally got angry enough.

Read that again. And again. You may not like it. You may detest it. But that is reality dude.

So anyone who actively and vocally tries to quiet and settle the group with "patience' and "decorum" speech and the old "it's just business" routine literally extends the time it takes to get an agreement.

Angry, vocal, frustrated and SOP pilots get TA's.

Patient, quiet and docile pilots get the big blue weenie.

I told Payne privately toward the beginning of this year that we had a greater than 50% chance of a CBA this year, and if it happened most likely before summer.

I told Payne privately recently that for many reasons this meeting had a good chance of producing an agreement. Also for the record, Payne on his own and for the same reasons predicted a likely agreement at this meeting.

I told the entire group, and got told how wrong I was by the way, that we would have NO agreement by summer 2017.

I again told the group, and again was told how wrong I was, that we would have NO agreement by end of year 2017.

So I have absolutely proven my understanding of the process. So, instead of running that erectile-washing-machine you call a mouth, why don't you read this post 5 more times and stop telling us what you "detest".

I do NOT care what you detest, I care what works and what actually achieves the raises and work rules we deserve.