Dave, I believe you are on the mighty 777, would you feel differently if on sweet Fifi going from msn to ord instead of hkg Sfo? I totally see the need to sit down and really go over things for a 12 hour flight, but on a short flight things can be done faster and not miss anything. Just a thought. When I flew intl we had a 2.5 hour show. Too much imho, we were usually done after 30-45 minutes so we sat around the rest of time and spread rumors or dove into the catering.