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Old 05-22-2018 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jtrain609
Yes, because the aim point for the NC and MEC shouldn't be to get 50 percent +1 votes, it should be closer to 65 to 70 percent yes. If it gets rejected by a single percentage point, or even a single vote, that means the NC cut things WAY too close, and the pilot group believes there's a lot more money left on the table.

I figure 10-15 percent of the pilot group is going to vote no out of spite, or because of some inane argument like, "You never say yes to the first deal!" (Heads up for you guys who think this, the NC has already said no THOUSANDS of times during the negotiations, you just weren't in the room to hear it). This group will vote no in any event. Figure another 15-20 percent votes no because they don't like the deal, but this group will only vote yes when we get FedEx retirement, Delta profit sharing, Southwest scope, and American retirements.
On the contrary, if the company gets any more than 50.1% approval, they gave up too much. If it is close to passing, and the scales can tip just enough to make it pass, there is no reason for the company or the negotiators to make all sorts of demands, change a lot of stuff, etc. Both sides want 50.1%. As soon as they hit that, the deal is done and over with, and both sides can move on and stop spending time and money negotiating. That's the whole point. 50.1% is the goal. I may vote yes. I don't know yet. But I can say that based on the bullet points, this falls short. And if this fails, I would hope the NC/MEC would get together, get some feedback from the line (via hopefully better surveys than the last 2), find out a few non-starter issues (rates and raises for me), go back to the company, offer it up, get a new AIP with a few updates, and bam, done. No need for additional road shows, no need for a long period of time. If the data is there, the fixes are there, a lot of us leaning no now will change to yes, and it can wrap up.
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