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Old 05-27-2018 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by embraerjetpilot
Yeah, you have a welfare state mostly because you have taken away peoples right to collectively ask for a living wage.


I don’t remember one republican ever arginine for a livable wage

I dot. Remember one republican arguing for decent healthcare costs.

I do not remember one of them screaming when the cost of insulin was raised 3000 percent.

Not one fussing when the cost of oil has gone up 30 percent in the last year.

Your so busy watching Fox News you actually vote for people who think you should be paid in peanuts.

I don't fundamentally disagree with you on the notion that people should be paid a fair wage. However, the means to achieve that is where conservatives disagree with the left. Note: I don't speak for the "establishment right" which includes Neo-conservatives (warmongers) and Republicans in Name Only (RINO). I'm a Constitutionalist/Libertarian that doesn't believe in the false left/right paradigm. To me the Republicans and Democrats are really part of the same time. Both are anti-freedom, anti-free speech, pro-big government, and anti-Constitution. However, the "left" goes several steps further and they fundamentally are fascist authoritarians. That's why they silence free speech (e.g. silencing berkeley speeches using ANTIFA, shadowbanning on Twitter/Google/Facebook). That being said, the Left wants government control over everything. They want to endlessly tax the Have's and give it to the Have-Not's. They want to destroy the middle class altogether (most of the 1% rich elite ARE Democrats). Their methods simply don't work. Every single Left experiment with wealth re-distribution (theft through taxation) has been a tragic failure in every sense. Look at NYC, Chicago, SFO, Los Angeles. These Democrat run cities are worse than 3rd world countries. Chicago is a bankrupt war-zone, NYC is a dump (and a war-zone), and SFO is a drug junkie/homeless shelter. L.A. has a miles-long tent city with all the Californian's moving out. No wonder it has one of the lowest, if not THE lowest, quality of life. I would have *some* degree of respect for the left if some of their ideas work, but NONE of them do.



"I don’t remember one republican ever arginine for a livable wage"


Because it's not a "right". It's your personal responsibility in a free economy to stand up for your profession, to be a market force, and to negotiate as a responsible adult. You can't force people to give you jobs and "fair wages" despite what Communist college professors teach. The best way to get a living wage is to be smart, do well in school, don't have children out of wedlock, don't do drugs or any chemical dependency, and don't break any laws. There is nothing but opportunity out there for people who are motivated enough to seek it.



"I dot. Remember one republican arguing for decent healthcare costs."


The best way to achieve decent healthcare is to cut government intervention or pass GOOD laws. Laws are sometimes written by the elites and corporations to benefit them. Did you notice that Trump & company just got the "Right to Try" law? That's where you can bypass the FDA to try something experimental if you're going to die anyway. This has really opened up the standard of care for people. Contrast that to socialized healthcare in Europe (your model) where kids die because the NHS won't let the kid get treatment since it's not in their standard of care, even though it could save that kid's life. Parents have no rights to get their own child healthcare outside of EU. In other recent news, a guy has one shorter leg than the other and instead of getting treatment here in the U.S. to make one leg longer, socialized medicine's solution is to amputate the leg. Socialized healthcare is not cheaper, it's actually far far more expensive and always results in substantially lower quality. Go live in Cuba or Venezuela and tell me how it went.





"I do not remember one of them screaming when the cost of insulin was raised 3000 percent. "


This bothers me. Actually it bothers Trump a lot which is why he is constantly attacking big-pharma. The way to attack that kind of price increase is to firstly get rid of all government subsidies at the local, state, and federal level. That way the market has complete authority over a company rather than being shielded by corrupt government (mostly Democrat). Then, it's up to the consumer to inform themselves and to exert market forces on them. Nothing is stopping a competitor from inventing a comparable drug or treatment for insulin. Right now, there is a huge barrier to entry because of laws passed by big corporations through Democrats to establish a high barrier to entry.


"Not one fussing when the cost of oil has gone up 30 percent in the last year. "


And yet democrats and the left fight Trump when he is working to reduce costs of fuel by allowing domestic energy manufacturing? Again, nothing is stopping you from inventing a free-energy device or a more efficient photovoltaic cell. I'm not a fan of using oil for fuel myself but using government control to manipulate the market always ends in further pain.




"Your so busy watching Fox News you actually vote for people who think you should be paid in peanuts."


I guess you don't read ANY of my posts. I do watch Fox News because it is substantially more accurate than all the leftist media out there which is plain dishonest and an extension of the Democratic party. However, even Fox is establishment and not truly conservative. I also watch MSNBC and CNN which is why I am aware of their lies and blatant propaganda mission. What's really concerning is how many young people and leftists believe the marketing rhetoric of CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, etc. They are so willfully ignorant that they honestly believe Rachel Madcow and the rest of the actors they have. You don't even have to like Trump to realize that those leftist "news" outlets are outright lying about him. For example, Trump wants to stop illegal immigration. Clinton said the exact same things but they won't attack the Clintons.







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