Originally Posted by
pilotpayne
I may be wrong but you seem to say that unless pay and work rules are industry leading you are a no.
That I see as a false choice.
There is a scenario where you could make 20 bucks less in pay rates than Delta but have work rules that end up making you more money. It just happened to me where they changed my sked and I got done outside my foot print. It’s a nice chunk of cash for just getting done a bit later.
You could also get paid the highest and have work rules, lack of cx pay or half DH pay that would have you making less than someone with a lower published rate.
I think that is where we keep hitting a wall. Nobody knows the real value of the pay rates until we see all of the language.
Or we could go for industry leading in everything but name one CBA that is leading in everything. Just seems unrealistic. We can go for that but it certainly isn’t the norm.
You’re exactly right, but when it comes down to a measuring contest, hourly rates are the easiest thing to tie our ego to. If the QOL/W2 items aren’t there, no biggie, we can complain about that amongst ourselves (who doesn’t love having more stuff to complain about!), but rates are what the other guys walking around the terminal in white shirts will know about.
