Q, take it down two notches.

You're not exactly wrong, but the majority of the group is just not where you are. Seriously.

The group can't get to where you are leading them if they have no appetite for that fight. You are ****ing into the wind and wasting a tremendous amount of your time, and our time in the process. BECAUSE THE GROUP DOESN'T WANT THIS FIGHT AT THIS TIME.

Besides all that, we don't have the full language yet, so this discussion is even more pointless. I agree with you, there is very likely not going to be any unicorn language that makes this great. But the majority seems completely intent on seeing the language before making a judgement. Since it is obviously the case that the group wants to see the language first, before making a judgement, how can you not see that you are just wasting your time???

Even after the language, assuming the language doesn't make this thing super awesome, if the group simply doesn't want this fight (because they (group majority) are satisfied with 5th out of 6th for the better part of the next decade) then you are just wasting your time!

Furthermore, I have to agree with others, something just doesn't add up with you. I am still not convinced you are a JB line pilot.

You're Mel Gibson in Braveheart, but with no one standing behind you bud.

So, you either are everything you say you are but it's NOT working.

Or you are F & H and it's NOT working.

If you really are a JB line pilot, wait until the language comes out. Gauge the groups reaction to it and gauge the groups appetite for the hard fight ahead. If you see an opening, lead.

If not, if it's like right now, you're just ****ing into a hurricane.

BD