Originally Posted by
squawkoff
It would be nice if the CBA constrained the company while allowing us some flexibility. Again, just like the 29 in 7 company restraint allowing us 30 if we choose.
If you had your choice would you rather have a 4 day at 200% or a turn? As for me I’d rather have a 4 day at 200%. Right now I need 4, four day trips to get to 72 hours. If I could do 3 four day trips for the same credit then that would be an extra 4day in open time that would possibly go for 200%.
I’ll quit beating my drum. We just think differently. I think we want the same conclusion and to accomplish the same goal with the CBA we just think differently and see this scenario through different lenses. I think my way would actually increase the chance of an X Y list call.
Yes you’d be doing one less 4 day trip but you’d be covering the same amount of block hours. It’s a zero affect on open time.
To your earlier point, they do toy with building those 5-6hr turns to the back end of 4 day trips occasionally.
The byproduct is less turn lines for those senior and used to getting turns. Also, more junior crews flying to unfamiliar challenging airports day 4 after a very early show and a sit as opposed to a well rested senior crew that does it everyday during bankers hours. Lastly, any delay taken on that first leg in the morning translated into legality issues for the crew and often pulling that last turn and scrambling to cover the last turn at 200%. To the company that’s another delay and soft time, both things they don’t want.
I don’t watch the pairings as much these days so I don’t know if they still play with this much or if they decided to go one way or the other. It used to be one month many turn lines then poof the next month they pushed all that flying to still unproductive 4 days but the last day is 3 legs worth 8hrs. Those months everyone got unproductive 4 days instead of just some.