Originally Posted by
Globemaster2827
Dave... To give you an idea about why just about everyone is arguing with you and treating you like a troll, let me ask you this question. From your extensive knowledge of negotiations what offer is "the union" refusing to settle? Just what do you think "the union" could agree to today that the company would offer?
My personal opinion from talking to those in the room is that we could agree to an Amalgamation with Southern's work rules (28 hour work days, No business class international, no vacation, no rig.. etc) and average our work rules with Southern's. That'd mean an extra day or two of work away from home for you. It'd mean current book retirement. It'd mean a 5 year deal. It'd mean current book SCOPE... At best. It'd mean Kalitta rates. Less for a 767 Captain. Is that really what you want?
Furthermore... You pay them dues as you complain about. Leadership would be very receptive to your phone call and keep you directly updated if you cared to ask BK, CK or YP what the exact offer is that they're rejecting. Have you ever called them to ask? (Hint... I know the answer to the question...) PM me if you need phone numbers or you can get them off the 1224 website.
Now ask yourself this... Is BF gonna be taking your call to listen to your concerns?
Also... Stop with the conspiracy theories about "The money pouring in"... We're fighting for an "Industry Standard (or Leading) Contract". Every one of our EXCO would be making more money in that scenario and would work far less...
...Just trying to get you on our team.
Globe, I'm not a conspiracy theory guy. I have NEVER even made reference to a conspiracy. We get a contract and the assessment goes away. That is not a conspiracy. That is fact. Thus, I don't think the union is in "any hurry". I heard what you said and it is obvious that you are firmly entrenched into the "amalgamation" argument. I have read numerous previous mergers and acquisitions awards and I know that if/when contract negotiations get to that point and moreover specific to our contract, an arbitrator must take into consideration proposals from both sides that account for industry peer comparisons, career expectations, and other elements before an award can be issued. So to expect me to believe that we'd go backwards from what we currently have and bring Southern up to parity is not realistic.
I have NEVER said that the union is refusing to settle. Please go back and search all of my words. I am confident you will never see that.
I have brought my concerns to EXCO members during new hire meetings when they have been present and to be quite honest we just get glazed over with political double speak. I'm not impressed.