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Old 06-25-2018 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas
1. Scope: This is not SWA scope. Ha will still be flying 321's to Honolulu on our code. We will be feeding everyone else's wide bodies. This continues and expands as long as we are "growing". A growth rate of .001% will be sufficient. Never mind we could be growing 15% without it.

Oh, but if we stop growing we can claw it all back. Riiiight. because when the company is falling on hard times it will be a cake walk to eliminate highly profitable code shares. Scope is weak.

2. Work rules: Yes there are some improvements, but there are also concessions. Reserve was touted as "going senior its so good!" Yea, it will go senior because those are the only guys getting LCR. For everyone else it's pretty much the same. 17 days in a crash pad. Someone will fly those redeye turns fellas.

Still doing post flights.

Still cleaning while standby.

No jumps seating or allowing OAL in mint.

No crew meals on transcons.

Pairing construction? Unstacking? I guess these are improvements but I do not see how they are large ones. The way I read it the pairings honestly won't change much.


The company can make you go to the doctor if sick? Isn't that one of the reasons DAL voted theirs down? Along with IOE trips (which we also give up).

OH, and let's not forget the big one. BINDING ARBITRATION FOR NEW AIRCRAFT. Huge huge huge giveaway.

3. Pay: *sigh*

Kick in the nuts. When you account for the loss of PTO sell back this area ranges from 1%-10% increase. We will be near the bottom. We have talked at length about how bad the rates are. Where are those amazing work rules that were gong to make up for us dragging the industry down? I'm still waiting.
Dude. Relax. You are a no vote. Got it.

You are the angriest dude on this forum. Still haven't forgotten that you called us all,"wannabe scabs a few weeks ago."

Why the anger? We see the world differently. That's cool.

Anyway, you do have some valid points, and reasonable people can vote either way on this T/A but your statements seem more dramatic than a lifetime movie.
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