Originally Posted by
BeatNavy
Only thing I saw in the TA regarding newhire pay is that the cutover occurs after the LOE. Didn’t see any published training pay rates.
To add onto this, Section 24.W.1...
"1. Unless provided otherwise in this Agreement, a Pilot’s pay for a new Status shall
be effective upon the completion of OE or four (4) weeks after his LOE,
whichever occurs first. "
Is that industry standard? So for example, you upgrade to CA, is my understanding correct that you don't get CA pay until completion of OE?? Every other job I've had you start your new seat pay at the completion of the checkride. With this rule it appears you'll be getting FO pay while flying as a CA during OE. Unless I'm missing something, that doesn't make any sense.
Originally Posted by
P-3Bubba
However, the DOS agreement will be real. The 401k balances and W2 results will be real. You’re signing bonus will be real. A CBA to carry in your hip pocket will be real.
Vote Yes.
-Bubs
I'm still undecided, but the signing bonus is the last thing on the list that will make me vote yes. New guys might get $1k if they're lucky. Still not sure of the actual distribution details but rough math tells me I won't see anything that would make a signing bonus tip me one way or the other.
One thing I wanted from this new contract as a relatively new guy is something solid enough that would make me question leaving JB if someone else calls. I wanted a contract that, if DL/UA/AA/FDX call, I'd have to really sit down and crunch numbers and see if it's worth it. So far this TA doesn't do that for me. Future retention and new hire attraction will be very important, especially as hiring ramps up at other places. A mediocre contract isn't going to keep butts to the seats.