Originally Posted by
AYLflyer
I think you're confusing codesharing and regional fee for departure.
JB won't be making any sort of real profit off of simply codesharing our current flying. According to everything I've read so far, selling a ticket on JetSuite lands JB literally pennies on the dollar. If they want to stay in business as an airline and not a travel agency, then they won't be farming off all of our flying.
That said, I want to make sure I understand the scope as near 100% as possible. I'm hoping the road shows will clarify the information.
To those who have decided NO because of scope, can I ask, why are you willing to give up a contract now with scope in it, vs risking working under a PEA with no security and risking jetblue farming out flying in the next 12+ months while a new TA is drafted and voted in?
Also from the FAQ
We can codeshare on horizon or SkyWest planes under the Alaska code if we codeshared with them. Doesn’t have to be a CPA/FFD agreement. The idea with codesharing isn’t necessarily to make a lot of profit from a route. It’s to get customers on our planes from markets we don’t serve with little to no risk. It’s market access with no investment or cost. Then they connect on us and we make money that way. We get intl customers on our flights that way. With domestic codesharing, we can access west coast markets via Alaska and their CPAs with SKW and Horizon if we codeshared with them. How is that a good thing? That is incentive to not spend the money to grow organically into those markets.
Why was SWAPA so loud when SWA mgmt started privately discussing possible codeshares? Read this article and then tell me if you still think codesharing is harmless, and if so, how you came to that conclusion...I’m genuinely curious and want to know how it’s not a threat to growth.
https://www.bizjournals.com/chicago/...share-and.html
SWA Senior Vice President of Network and Revenue Andrew Watterson also said talk of codesharing and interline agreements haven't gotten far with rank-and-file employees at Southwest in the past because some believe such agreements could be used to cut back on the company's hiring plans.
"That could be a legitimate concern," Watterson conceded in his memo.
International or routes we can’t fly is one thing. Like cape...I don’t care about a small piston plane flying on our code with pax getting on our flights. We have nothing that can effectively fly those routes that cape has codeshared with us. Ditto for international (until we get the capability, which I wish had more controls to end codeshares if we can fly the routes with new planes).
I’ve read the TA scope section probably 30-40 times, read the FAQs, and still don’t see how essentially unlimited domestic codeshares is a good (or even okay) thing. 1% growth? 1 block hour per year? 1 pilot added to the list a year. That’s our controls put in place? I’m not sold.