Originally Posted by crazycoconut

ok I will enlighten you bozos since you all like to talk about stuff that you obviously know nothing about....

Aloha started flying a 767-300 under a wet lease agreement to open a new route from HNL to LAX 3 years ago. They wanted to see if they could turn a profit on this route with a new airplane type before they committed the capital to adding a new fleet. The pilot contract allowed a wet lease for 2 yrs before the company would have to use Aloha pilots on the airplane. As the 2 year deadline approached, NAC management dragged their feet on getting the 767 on their certificate and having the Aloha pilots fly the plane. The Aloha union agreed to a 1 yr extension for some conditions. Then the Aloha Flt Ops team started work on getting the 767 certificate on the Aloha Certificate and getting expedited ETOPS (since they already had years of ETOPS experience).
Keep in mind, during this time the NAS management never said they planned to merge Aloha and NAC. Then about 2 weeks before Aloha Flt ops was set to meet with the FAA for getting the certificate, NAS management decided they were going to get the 767 certificate put on the NAC certificate instead. Great management decision, only cost them 7 months more time and who knows how much money to start the process over again.
If you don't see how Aloha pilots are connected to the 767 flying , then you don't know how the airline industry works. wet leases are done all the time. When Aloha Cargo started the wet lease, they had the career expectation to fly the airplane within 2 yrs. At that time the NAC pilots had no career expectation to ever fly a 767. You don't think that means anything? well go back and look at every merger of the majors in the the last several years. They all had some fence arrangement based on career exceptions.
How do I know all this, well I know the ex-DO at Aloha and I heard the whole story.