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Old 07-02-2018 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16
I don't think it puts us in the realm of average. I think it puts us in the very bottom of our peer group on DOS, then falling further and further behind every year.


I don't know what we'd get back if we vote it down, but I know it's substandard as it sits right now. I realize the NC felt the got as much out of the company the could. That's why it's probably time to pass the baton to a new NC to push us over the finish line. That is no way a hit against the NC. They did a fantastic job getting us to where we are right now.



Deal making is as much psychology as it is skill. Having sold cars for a year waiting to go into the military, it was one of the most interesting and educational experiences of my life. Sitting across the table from a guy trying to buy a car and being completely deadlocked between what he's willing to spend and what my manager is willing to let the car go for. We'd play the "manager" game. I'd disappear, and another car salesman would come in and talk with them. He'd introduce himself as the assistant GM and that would change the entire dynamic. We'd move $5/month less or offer $500 more off the sticker price and instantly the deal was done.


So do I believe the NC thinks they got the most out of the company they'll ever get. Yes. I do. 100%. Do I believe that's the most WE can get out of the company as a pilot group? Not for a minute.
My discerning point of view isn't with the NC it's with the group as a whole.

When almost all calls for help from the company are answered...
when almost all extensions are granted...
When Safety and SOP are not the goal...

Whats your leverage?

...and I certainly agree with you. I do. We deserve better on many fronts. But do You think it's attainable voting no, sending it back and will it be worth it?
I'm not asking because I want to push a yes or a no vote, but to drive a thought process for everyone.
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