Originally Posted by
Bozo the pilot
If this were turned down, my guess is they would just throw more $$ at us. i.e. 100 Mill bonus
I do not think that the Health care would miraculously improve, PTO sell back is gone and the RSV system is staying in place. (NC is proud of that section, along with Section 25 in general.
Vote NO if this TA is not what you want, but be realistic about your expectations if it is indeed rejected.
Maybe its worth it- Maybe B6 accepts the Summer of SOP and then inks a deal for RJs?
I doubt theyll do that, but for all of you looking for loopholes in this TA, take a look at the giant loophole that is our Current Book.
Thats not fear, thats the PEA/FSM.
Vote accordingly.
I honestly don't think we'd get more money if we turned this down. Possibly some changes in language we're not happy with, but I don't believe the company is willing to part with another dollar if they don't have to. Working under the PEA still saves them millions.
I was leaning NO up until a few days ago. I still have questions that need answering as I'm re-reviewing specific pages of the TA, but after attending the roadshow I feel much more confident in it. Also hearing from CK and JC directly about how and why they voted on this TA eased my nerves a bit.
Can we get more out of JB if we vote this down right now? I can't answer that, but I agree with all of those who say that delaying this another 12+ months will expose us to real risk and loss of benefits/pay had we accepted this proposal. Operating under the PEA is a lose/lose at the moment. What's to stop JB from making a big move due to the added time without a pilot contract and decide to announce a JetBlue Express after we vote NO? Then we'll be in a world of ****.
I also have to agree with the negotiating committee when they said "We polled the pilots, and they wanted a market rate/industry standard contract. We have achieved that, with industry leading sections". They even mentioned some things when negotiating 'market rate' hurt us, because things like PTO sellback and UTO are not industry standard, therefore the mediator couldn't agree with the pilots that we should keep those provisions from the PEA.
At the end of the day everyone had to do what's best for themselves, but after being at the Q&A and seeing the presentation, I can understand better how and why we got to where we are today.