Ill be honest, Im very much against any pension due to the fears many have previously posted. Ill bite though and ask those of you who believe we should get one, please explain what exactly you would like to see, how you would to see it rolled out, and what would you be willing to sacrifice for it? Im only assuming that if this passed the company would remove our 401K DC and make it at best a "typical 401K" and have some kind of basic % match.

Im honestly trying to see what bullet points (preferably more comprehensive) you all have in favor of such an idea. Its easy in my opinion to complain about what were leaving on the table but I and Im sure others would like to hear specifics. The devil is in the details and the details matter.