Originally Posted by
BunkerF16
We have some merger protection in our PEA right now, especially if it's with another ALPA carrier, but I guess it's better to be scared of the boogie man and hurry up and sign a sub par TA just in case we get bought/oil hits $150 a barrel/economy tanks/etc etc.
There's nothing in this TA that I can look at and say that affects me in a positive way either $, QOL, or just peace of mind. I'd rather live under the PEA for another 1 or 2 than accept this POS for the next 5-7.
Just so we are clear, like it or not this is actually our first contract. First one, we can use tricky language about how we've been negotiating for 18 years and all that.....but simple reality is this is our first contract. A contract that not only had to be bargained from zero, but also had to address many pitfalls and schemes utilized by this company to propagate more schemes that were used to facilitate wage suppression, lack of QOL, open-architecture of health care plans to change at will, language that the intent was 100% owned by the company. I could go on and on.
In this "POS" TA, we have finally secured language that the intent is shared, bargained and precisely noted in order to combat this company when they decide, and they will, to purposely break the rules.
We have finally obtained pay rates within 2% of Southwest, 14% was the closest we have ever been before. With the VEBA and the 16% in 2021 we are 1.4% from Southwest.
ADG
INT override and per diem
Contractual guard rails on a health care plan that is largely mirrored by the industry, and the country for that matter.
VEBA, which SWA and DAL are already discussing how to get included to protect 415(c) spill money to produce more tax-free dollars.
SCOPE that is top of the industry, DAL and UAL told us to our faces we would never prohibit CPA.
Maintaining night override, 30% of all pairings trigger this, only other airline is SWA and theirs is half.
Industry leading pairing footprint pay protections.,....by a long shot!
RSV rules that are top of the industry.
Pairing construction rules unseen in the industry.
Hours of service rules that are better than industry standard, and we don't have anything today for 'day-of-ops' protections.
We absolutely know the 2% is shy of what it should be compared to the industry.
We absolutely HATE the cliff, but you show me where any airline has bargained for a better PS formula while not in concessions or a JCBA. AA is your only example and it's the same as our junk PS.
I get it, there are things that I wanted....and bad. It's not perfect, but I would love to have a conversation with anyone that can explain to me how this is such a POS and we are somehow hurting the industry. You are off your freakin rocker to think that.