I dont think that's why many ppl ignore Q, and you know that. I am close to putting the first person on ignore (several times I just scroll past what Q says). And its not cause of any stupid debate, it's just getting old and APC is the wrong place to accomplish Q's agenda. I'd rather see him/her swing into action with union work (even possibly MEC role) and make a change.

APC is for chit chat and reasoning. Debating? Make it reasonable. It's not a war ground here.