And lest we not forget, there was a clause in the pilot's TA that said if any of the other employee groups voted down their concessionary agreement, then the pilots would not be subject to the terms of our agreement. Well the FA's were the ONLY ONES who had the balls to say NO on their contract! But yet that POS panerello (scab mec chair) squandered any leverage we had left and over rode that clause and the rest is history. NONE of those people who were involved in that contract should ever be allowed to get near another union position. EVER. Many of those that negotiated and pushed that deal were not scabs, but I maintain, they did as much or more long term damage. Wouldn't p@#$ on 'em if they were on fire. Many of those names are well known on the CAL side.