Originally Posted by Bucking Bar

So tribal affiliation matters more than what people write and do? LOL

I fought Moak on scope harder than anyone. Got resolutions passed that he spoke against, made a presentation to the Delta MEC trying to get an executive board called to over-rule him, or potentially fire him as President (he let Endeavor's pilots negotiate scope directly with Delta in violation of the rules of the Admin Manual he was responsible for administering). Nobody went after Moak as long or as hard as I did, nobody.

Ironically, Moak saved Bill Bartels political career after he could not get nominated for Rep in Detroit because he was toxic for the red book guys. How do you think Bartels became the EVP for Delta? Took a majority of Delta pilots to make it happen.

The irony of the name calling.