Originally Posted by
Newstick189
Well, conversely, why vote no if it increases the QOL? The few outspoken people are so outraged they didn’t get Endeavor rates, a trip and duty rig, 15 days off, ETC. Unfortunately you can only bargain for things you have the leverage to get - we have none.
Voting no is just as good as keeping things the same. It doesn’t mean we will get more. In fact, if the economy takes a **** and we’re still the lowest paid guys in the industry due to a no vote we probably will have even less leverage in 2021 which is the next midterm negotiation.
It doesn't make our quality of life any better. Net loss = worse QOL. Pretty simple.
Voting no is keeping things how they are. 100%. I have no inkling of hope the company would come back in good faith. Good faith isn't in their vocabulary.
We need dramatic change at this place. Here's the Mantis plan for growing a spine (that part's for you, NewGuy) and forcing change:
1.) VOTE NO. Send a message that you are tired of this crap. Pennies will not suffice. We will not make a single concession because this is our market. They need us. They run this place about as inefficiently as possible. That is not our problem, and we will not have that burden placed on us (think any of our problems related to crew shortage and how it all stems from their inability to train pilots).
2.) Recall several people in the union. Start at the very top. Stop selling us on something that is beneath us. We get you were swimming upstream, and that this TA wasn't going to be spectacular. Thanks for your time and effort, but the TA isn't good enough. Stop selling it like it is. Repeat after me: "we tried as hard as we could to get as many wins for the pilot group as possible. We were against the odds, and the company wouldn't budge on much. Vote how you will". You aren't a salesman.
3.) Vote of No Confidence: Do any of you have any confidence in managements ability to run this place? Have you ever? I sure haven't. Again, this sends a message more than anything else. We're done with the status quo.
All of this is highly public, and gets a lot of attention. The way to make this place hurt is to stop filling classes. Imagine looking at Piedmont as a prospective pilot, and seeing that the pilots are ousting the weak in the union, voting down the crumbs the company is offering us, and telling management we have had enough, and don't believe they can run this place. Not only that, but it would turn heads at AA. Oh yeah, and our flow is probably north of 8 years now. Let's make that fact very well known.
It's at least a start.