Originally Posted by
ShyGuy
Again, that no should be a yes. Stop comparing Alaska to where you came from. Of course it’s an improvement. But compared to the 2014-present hiring cycle, how many pilots left Delta, American, United, or Southwest to come to Alaska? Probably zero, or maybe at best you can count on one hand how many. Alaska is a “legacy” airline and as such should be compared to the big 5, not the terrible place you came from (or anywhere else for that matter). AS being a good, so so, or terrible place should be a comparison to other big top 5 carriers in terms of career prospects, growth, retirements, pay, QOL, scheduling.
You’re saying that because Alaska ranks at the bottom of the top 5 airlines in the country, it’s a terrible place to work? Is that a correct interpretation of your statement? So because we are 4% behind in pay, a half % behind in 401K, our scope is almost zero and our section 25 needs improvement, this is a “TERRIBLE” place to work? I think a more accurate assessment would be that AS is lagging in leadership and contract language but it’s not a terrible place to work. You clearly have no idea of what a terrible place to work looks like. To validate your point you say no other Legacy pilots left for AS from ‘14-present. How many VX pilots left for AS? I know a few. How many AS pilots left for VX? I don’t know any. How many of those same Legacy pilots left for VX? If that’s how you measure a terrible place to work than it kinda negates your point because that would mean VX was an even more terribler or the most terriblest place to work since nobody left their Legacies to go there (voluntarily). I know those aren’t words but that’s how my 3 yr old would say it and I think it fits nicely into this pointless argument. Yes, when compared to the top 5 airlines in the country, AS is lagging and needs to get its ish together to complete and improve employee/management relations. A “terrible place to work”, ha, no. Every airline has been at a low point. Some of those same airlines are top players in today’s market. Let’s see how this plays out and in the meantime, write your leaders/reps and let them know how you feel.