Forgive me....I'm a bit of a lurker here because my son is one of you.

None of you really know what hell is. Nine years ago I was pushing metal for Air India flying the 777 and one of my frequent routes was FRA to ORD. My copilot (if you can call him/her that) was typically 21 or 22 years old and had no more than 500 hours total time and Air India did not authorize/allow copilots to land the jet. Air India didn't augment until scheduled time went over 9:59 which it never did, so in the winter actual flight times were often well over 10 hours. BTW when you hear Air India check in with ORD approach I would give them a little extra room.

When you fly a 777 from FRA to ORD essentially by yourself in the middle of winter....only then....will you understand what real hell is.