I don't blame anyone for leaving for a better gig... but Envoy, in my opinion, is not a better gig. Commuting sucks, so if that is a factor then maybe, but you will be min days off at Envoy with days off rolled and junior manning, etc. Things are not improving at any regional.

I have done 7 years of corporate and charter and it is 90% of the time not a better gig. There are certainly good corporate gigs out there but they are so few.

The toxic employee culture is toward management... not each other. I like almost every person I have flown with, save a few weirdos. The stagnation has come but 2017 was a decent year. I was hired at the end of 2016 and am 55% in base at LAX. The junk contract is a big deal but hopefully some important aspects can be fixed in 2020. The job is not perfect but it is way better than a lot of jobs out there.

Is it better than the Big 4? No.. definitely not.