billsaw

Thanks. Having watched many friends go through this same story at many different operations it just becomes disheartening to watch. Especially since the same two basic scenarios play out over and over.

The real sad part is the operations with potential that lose their really good guys only to switch positions to late in the game and the flight departments go down the tubes big time. They end up replacing great guys with substandard ones in some cases at more than the good ones wanted to stay.

In the end it seems if they can't be talked into changing in 10-20 min you won't do it in 2 or 3 years until the good guys hit the door and the place falls apart. Hence my position on not wasting too much time on them. My buddies that got more money or better conditions did it in one meeting. The ones who didn't hung around for years trying to convince them with all the data to come up with either nothing or maybe some empty promises about what they "intend to do" only to quit mad at themselves for wasting so much time trying.

The reality now with the airlines these private and corporate flight departments are in for a real surprise. If they so much as blink in a year or so at a raise there won't be anyone around to hire at any price....