[/QUOTE] You all got burned once by that, why would anyone want a DB where any portion is in the company's hands?

All it takes is a serious downturn in the economy, and the company will be coming to us saying, "take these big pay cuts or the DB gets it!" then we agree to the paycuts "to save the DB" and the company takes the DB anyway. Sounds familiar?[/QUOTE]

These statements should be framed, mandatory viewing and required signed disclaimer for all entering the MEC offices. Sadly these are words are being ignored because the MEC is listening to a loud and vocal (and getting older by the day) minority.