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Old 09-06-2018 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by butthert
I cannot speak for everyone but my observation is that many pilots choose to stay and are trying to get a fair and equitable contract.

If every pilot group in the past resigned just because contract negotiations were going poorly then you would never see the likes of current Delta pay rates. These contracts were fought hard for by those that came before us.

The new hires coming on property today are interfering with that and dragging the process out. Failure to secure an industry leading contract with Indigo will set a precedence for the rest of the industry. All eyes should be on us right now.


I have to disagree. Delta still attained those pay rates. Recently among the big three, we’ve seen industry-leading rates, me-too clauses, and voluntary pay increases mid contract. These airlines have no problem filling classes and likely will not for a very long time.

Anyone who inquires to me about F9 will hear me dissuade them from applying - backed by stories of how awful things are right now and the terrible management that rules, but I refuse to treat someone poorly for coming to class. There’s a stark contrast between hoping people don’t show in order to help our situation, and EXPECTING people off-property to forego their career advancements to help our plight. Depending on people to not apply is merely grasping at straws. That said, I believe supply and demand will work this out sooner than later.

People come to work here for a wide variety of personal reasons. Some show up and are gone right after training, which I think is even more damaging to the company than not showing up at all. Let’s not forget that getting calls from the big three isn’t that easy (I’ve been trying for ten years) and the regionals still really suck despite recent improvements. Let’s not forget how the career was sold down the river creating the regionals. When is comes to career moves, people have to do what’s right for them personally.

And to anyone crapping on new hires, I certainly hope you don’t ever work more than 70 credit hours. If so, you’re a hypocrite.

-SR




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