Originally Posted by
word302
So what if someone works more than 80 hours a month? You guys are trying to use a set bonus and attribute an hourly rate to it. Anyone working more will get less per hour. More airplanes means more hours. Again, seems like fuzzy math.
However many hours someone credits, just add $10k/$8k to the total, year end. The 80 hour thing is just to try to accurately show what that would equate to as far as a pay rate in order to try to compare apples to apples. It’s not fuzzy management provided and funded charts like you get at Skywest. Any other sleuthing you want to try to point out?
Originally Posted by
word302
Maybe because we think you could do much better?
Again, rich coming from Skywest pilot group which has always made the excuse to not set the bar for fear of not being competitive. This TA is better than the Skywest rejected TA in total compensation, work rules, retirement, insurance, and scope.
Originally Posted by
Tpinks
The rates themselves are not good. Without the EQO, quite frankly, it sucks. Bringing rates up is fine, but if your soft pay and work rules suck, you are going to be stuck with those rules for the next 3 years or longer.
Yeah, but it’s not without the EQO. The TA includes the EQO. And soft pay and work rules don’t suck either, along with insurance and retirement.
Originally Posted by
Tpinks
Not on the 50 seat chart. We still have 50 seat rates at republic and our 50 seat rates that were negotiated in 2015 are still higher than what your TA proposes as actual rates.
I didn’t know that. When you said actual rates, you mean the rates without the EQO. How does it compare with the EQO?
Originally Posted by
Tpinks
Those charts are very disingenuous as The EQO does not add to to any rate.
If you are flying a premium trip at say 200%, your only getting 200% of your contractual rate, not 200% of this BS “EQO included rate”.
If you credit more than 70hrs, every hour over 70 is done at the flat rate.
The EQO is part of the total compensation. The conversion to a rate and showing it on the charts is just to be able to compare apples to apples. If someone wanted to, they can also compare regionals’ total compensation by multiplying the rate by the minimum guarantee and multiplying that by 12 months. And for xjt, you would add the $10k/$8k to get total compensation. But then people would argue that no one flies only minimum guarantee. This is just to try to compare each regional fairly. They could have easily used 75 hour guarantee instead of 80 hours in order to come up with a rate that was higher, but they didn’t. The chart is titled with the EQO, so as not to confuse anyone.
This whole EQO things is for OPTICS. It’s for regional pilots, specifically Skywest pilots, to think the total compensation isn’t as high as it will be.