Originally Posted by
Gary et al
The solution is to fail these people out of training and put negative marks on their records that will effect their entire career. That will make them think twice about making such a big transition. Not because we want to harm them for coming and damaging the 1260 pilots currently here future's, but because they could not pass training to the same standards and pace as the rest of us.
It is up to the training department to keep these people out of the cockpit. Heck if they really are good enough, then they earned a spot sitting there. If they struggle through training, they should not be given multiple extra sims to "train to proficiency."
The next step after those that make it through training and OE are on the line is negative reviews from captains. Not made up BS because that will just discredit you and leave you with less power in this fight, but legitimate concerns. If these individuals made it into your right seat treat them like the pilot they apparently are. If they are not flying up to the standards expected of a brand new FO then refuse to fly with them, cite specific safety issues, document everything, and write them up.
Innocent until proven guilty my friend. But once guilty, send them home. And as always obviously don't let anything get to the point where it is critically unsafe.
I truly believe this is what will happen. Then these guys will have a failed check ride, a firing, and have gone against ALPA's wishes not to apply here. Good luck getting on with another ALPA carrier after being let go from frontier.