All the dash landings I've seen on TV have been gear up or collapse. So i guess that would make it normal...right... Okay, so I see the Horizon guys do it fine all the time here in the NW. I'm guessing they don't fly with left and right arrow keys however. I'll try to hook up the Brasilia via USB to my laptop today and see if it's any easier. A is up, Z is down right?