Originally Posted by boeingdvr

i've been here 3 years. It's been the same ol story. I was very optimistic a contract was in the very near future.

Now that i'm in the trenches, i don't see a contract ever happening.

Atlas will simply right size, out source, use ot, and any other means besides paying us a livable wage.

You see, we aren't like a fed, delta, or even a regional.

Atlas has the abilty to our source their entire operation. They are simply a holding company "much like starbucks or mcdonald's. Hence the name "aawwh"

if we can't fill a class, they simply make a call, have some rogue asian carrier move the freight, they make some and so does atlas. Still making a profit, and no need to hire more bodies.

A new hire today will never see -400 captain inside of 12 years. And possibly never see 767 captain inside of 6 years.

We have hired a ton of bodies in the last 4 years.

Be careful what you wish for. Flying around the world on min rest, or sitting r3 at the dirty dhl hub.

Gitty up.