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Old 10-01-2018 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by CrowneVic
Starting a new thread for us newbies and others on reserve at another's recommendation. Posted below what I was asking on another general thread to kick it off.

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"Wow, just wow, what?

Are you saying that if I am released from a RAP at 1800 on one day, don’t confirm my assignment for the next, that CS can’t call me as early as 0400 the next morning with an assignment or a 0400 RAP?

Don’t I start rest as soon as I duty off, which in this example, would mean I have had a legal rest period by 0400 and could be assigned something other than a rest period?

Isn’t it true that CS CAN, but doesn’t HAVE to call you at midnight with a rest assignment? Where in the contract does it say they SHALL call at midnight and give you rest, and that they can’t just wait until you’ve had a legal rest period to call with an assignment?

I understand what Pedro is saying, I believe.

One thing I did not get exactly clear in my explanation was the union email. That was about pilots who had already been assigned a RAP and were then called by CS and put on rest again to extend legality within a single duty day.

So, tell me if I am wrong here. If you have not confirmed an assignment, yes, CS CAN call at midnight or anytime thereafter to put you on a legal rest period with that first phone call. I understand that is the USUAL practice as Pedro was saying, but is that the contractually required or legal practice?

However, can’t they also just wait until you’ve had legal rest from the end of your last duty period, then call with an assignment instead of a rest period?

If I end a flight assignment at 1000 on day one, have I not had 14 hours of rest by the end of the day midnight, and am now legal for assignment? Isn’t that the risk you take by playing the “not confirming” game? What prevents the company from just giving me an assignment at this point rather than a new rest period?"
We already have a reserve rules thread but oh well.


You have several things confused.

1. You don't understand legal rest periods.
2. You don't understand the types of legal reserve assignments and how they differ.
3. You can have multiple duty periods in one day as long as they follow 117.

If you are preassigned a RAP 1 CS can legally and contractually call at 0401 give you ten hours of rest and then give you a flight assignment.

Back on the midnight thing. If you do not have a schedule then the rest you "accumulated" until then doesn't count for anything. You need to read the definition of "rest period" in 117.

You can ONLY be legal for an assignment (flight, RAP or standby) if you knew about it ten hours before the duty time startedand you were provided 8 hours of sleep, and it was uninterrupted. (Extenuating rules apply when picking up OT.)
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