Originally Posted by FedEx1
but I do have a small pet peeve I guess. If you are going to commute in and then turn directly into your 3 am hub turn out bound, don't be all crabby to the rest of us and complain how tired you are- the rest of us came in early enough to sleep in the crash pad or live here. And if you commute in, don't go taking a sleep room away from a full hub turner. That one really gets me.
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FedEx1
What is the really the difference between J/S ing in to a trip and Hubturning?
Its OK to be tired and fatigued when you are Hubturning but is not when you just jumpseated in??
From my own experience as a guy that has done both (I lived in MEM for several years and have commuted for several)
As far as domestic is concerned..............I often felt better rested prior to a trip by Jumpseating in........My J/S flight would arrive approx 1145PM and I'd grab a Sleep chair and if I was lucky I got almost a 3 hour Nap. When I lived in MEM, I would try to go to bed early 8PM or so.......but would toss and turn until 10-1030PM (my normal Bed time) ...then I would wake up every so often and peer at the clock (Clock watcher) until Midnight. Then I'd perform the "SSS" routine and drive to work..............I would arrive at the AOC around 1:45am much less rested than my commuter counterpart who is still in the sleep chair.........and had been for the last 2 hours.
International can be a different story..........although if you Know in advance you are going to be the 1st sleeper (especially with a crew rest aircraft) the above still applies......even though it is a No No per the contract.
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very tired while flying is just a fact of life at FedEx no matter who you are.
There are always the 1% that push things..........hopefully that is who you were referring to.