Originally Posted by Wheelswatch

Everyone assumes that their stated goals are the truth. Anyone consider they might be advertising (via rumor mill no less) that they wan't 36 pilots but really only want 15?

So far they've cancelled only half of the vacations in any given month right? Frontier has more pilots than they know what to do with.

ROI. Ever heard of that? Look it up. You can stand on your soap box all day long and preach about how good customer service, Herb style cozy employee relations and a good contract will make them more money etc. They don't care. They're involved in an experiment and are brazenly confident in their hypothesis. The idea that they can cheap out in every conceivable fashion and the consequences/costs of cheaping out will be less than the costs to run an airline more traditionally. That delays, cancellations, meltdowns, and even lawsuits are known and acceptable costs. That 'their' customers are born faster than they can run them off. They've got virtual case study upon case study around the globe of how you can pay crap and make immense profit in doing so. This is nothing new. And it works. Especially because no one else is doing it, quite to this degree. If running a well maintained quality apartment complex was the only way for landlords to make money, you wouldn't have slumlords.

This isn't changing for us, probably ever. If they hold on to it, and build it up, albeit much more slowly than advertised. If they connect us to the world via Volaris and what not, we are looking at a new paradigm. Get used to it. They'll run it just well enough to not fall apart completely. And anything above and beyond that is bad ROI.

Going public is our only hope, and then maybe we can at least be as good as NK.