Originally Posted by Otterbox

The non union TA really put ALPA negotiated efforts to shame... ALPA could just refund the pilot group their dues paid and the pilots would get most of the pay raise they were able to negotiate in exhange for concessions...

Apparently the Piedmont TA votedown was noticed... heard from multiple sources that the company came back to the union to ask what it would have taken to get a yes vote...