Concur with the Sleep room ettiquette. Wroking Pilots hould have priority.

My point was with the J/S ing into a trip.......................I am better rested (usually) when I jumpseat into a night hub turn than when I lived in MEM and drove to work. This is not true for Day Hub-turns.

AS for the long international trips, J/S turn option is a moot point because it is a contractual No No. That being said I always try to email the Relief crews (or answer their emails) for the sleep periods on the long hauls .....MEM-NRT, CDG-SFS and KIX-MEM. But as you say, SH** happens and everyone needs to be flexible............99% of the time everyone is!

Unfortunately I am still tired most all the time.