That isn’t an untrue statement for some here. As it wouldn’t be an untrue statement for some at any airline.

For me there are some very specific things that would need to be addressed in order for me to vote Yes on a new TA. If any one of them isn’t there then I vote no regardless of flow potentially increasing.

For me increasing the flow isn't much of a carrot. Even a drastic increase wouldn’t really affect my time to AA in an incredibly appreciable amount because for every increase in the flow less pilots above me leave.

If the company wants me to give up my SAP, they’re going to have to both pay me and make my quality of life better. And I don’t think they see a reason to pay us more money right now so