Originally Posted by Mesabi

Are we allowed to post quotes from ALPA emails? Well, I won’t risk direct quotes, but I’ll paraphrase the applicable info for anyone who still thinks it’s worth coming here:

Assuming a credit of 75 hrs per month, a 14 year F9 Captain makes 166,000. That’s the TOP paying position at F9.

A 1st year United FO makes 124,000 and by year 3 makes 173,000 when you include retirement and profit sharing. That’s right, a 3rd year narrowbody FO at United makes more than our topped-out captains. (So what was that argument about quick upgrades being worth it?)

Speaking of quick upgrades, at Delta, guys can hold JFK Airbus Capt at 3 yrs on property. At F9 your looking at 3.5 years minimum to hold PHL capt, which pays LESS than a 2nd(!) year FO at United (and probably Delta, American, Southwest, etc. etc.)

Oh, if you want DEN captain at F9 it takes over 5 years to hold. You want a line in DEN? TRY 17.5 YEARS.

Upgrades and retirement? Not at F9. Based on age 65, there are 66 retirements in the next 5 years and 218 in the next 10.

At the top 9 good airlines (Delta, AA, WN, FDX, UA, JetBlue, Alaska, UPS, and Hawaiian), there are a combined 12,900 retirements in the next 5 years and a whopping 27,900 in the next ten!

There is NO good reason to even CONSIDER Frontier right now. It will do NOTHING for your career but cost you money and waste your time.