Generally time frames are given when negotiations start with the intent of moving the process forward expeditiously. I.E. keep both parties at the table moving forward. Right now were basically dead in the water with this NMB. Any NC isn't going to start negotiations saying we have no idea when were going to see a contract? They try and give a best guesstimate (usually overlly optimistic ill give you that) and go from there. Management on the other hand is using best case scenarios to recruit pilots with the intention of dragging out negotiations as long as possible. So its a little different but just as frustrating.