Another guy not on property that has no idea what he's talking about. Maybe right at this moment it's harder to get hired as an FO. Solely because they hired a ton of FOs and can't use them at this particular moment. But just because it's harder to get on as an FO at this exact moment in time doesn't mean that they weren't hiring anyone they could get before now. And it most certainly doesn't mean they won't do that again once things start moving again. Are you an Envoy schoolhouse guy? Are you an Envoy Check Airman? If not, than you have no first hand experience as to what kind of people have been coming through the Envoy pipeline. Sorry, if it's hard for you to get on right at this moment, but that's not how it's been and not how it will stay.