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Old 11-04-2018 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Wheelswatch
I'm trying to get my head around why it is a pilot group like Delta has what it takes to kick back a TA, but a pilot group like NK doesn't.

If we could understand the difference we might glean answers that would help us once presented with our TA.

It must be partly because ALPA national gives vastly more support to the big carrier?

Is it because their education campaign is better? Do they corral their pilots together more effectively?

Someone once told me that our guys are forced to still go out and fly the line while in Section 6, whereas the Delta and United NC/MEC are released from all flying to do their job for the union. Anyone know if this is true, because that's a huge penalty for us if it is.

Whatever the reasons, there is something amiss that allows companies like Spirit, Allegiant, and Frontier to take advantage of the nonsensical notion that we deserve less. More perplexing is the fact that so many of our pilots accept this as true.

Listen, our unity WAS lacking, but recently it has come together quite impressively. We've done the hard part, we've fought a brutal battle. Fate showed us favor: the landscape changed; the school house is empty, and planes are getting parked. We have won! All that is left to do is walk in, plant the flag, and claim the victory. Why in the name of everything good would we cede anything major at this point?

Don't be afraid of "more time" and "time value of money" etc. Those are scaredy-cat words. The company will be back post-haste with a new TA.

For the first time in forever, we hold the cards. But if human nature is any predictor, we will sell ourselves short because we lack basic courage.

If this TA is brilliant, and every bit what we deserve, then vote it it in. But if you vote yes, even slightly, out of fear you're pathetic!


This exactly! Currently on this very page of APC there are 5 ads to come work here. That looks like company desperation to me. Guys let’s look at it like this. Has the growth happened? Yes. Has the company controlled every aspect of the timing? Yes. Is the company in a bind if we say no? ABSOLUTELY! Would the whole process take another year? Highly doubt it probably only a few months.
Read the thing and if it checks the boxes you need vote, “Yes” if not vote, “No”.
Lastly NO IT IS NOT OK TO HAVE YOUR BUDDIES APPLY YET!
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