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Old 11-09-2018 | 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by JoePatroni
I’ve heard the “seniority grab” argument ad nauseam but it doesn’t hold water when you look at each pre-merger pay scale. Sorry.
Originally Posted by JoePatroni
Got it, just stick with that. Look at the pre merger pay scales and keep telling yourself you’re right.
During the SLI, UAL-ALPA put up a graph showing the history of pay scales at both United and Continental. Up to 2005 United's pay scales were significantly higher than Continental's and had been so for over 3 decades. In 2005, you may recall, United's pay scales were set by a judge in bankruptcy proceedings. On no planet in the universe did any pilot at United expect that relationship to be maintained. Every United pilot expected pay rates would return to the pre-bankruptcy levels which historically had been higher than Continental's once the next opportunity to negotiate arose. That opportunity came with the JCBA at which time the union was able to negotiate rates higher than Delta's something Continental pilots had never before achieved. The relative pay rates you are using as an argument were not representative of the long term reality but rather were an aberration caused by the 2005 bankruptcy.

As to the point of 767-400 pay, I think it is a silly discussion. It should remain banded with the top pay rate. Why would anyone argue otherwise unless they somehow believe 16 planes are dragging down the potential max value. Delta pilots are arguing to bring their 764s up to our level. Let's not ruin their opportunity to increase their pay. Who knows maybe our NC can get the 767-300 banded up as well

Last edited by Sunvox; 11-09-2018 at 03:54 AM.
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