Delta has captains out of initial hire. But your reply is irrelevant. I was not saying year 3-5. I was saying year 1-11 is being shortchanged for year 12. The only pilots benefiting are the pre 2006 hire while everyone else is not. A true union cares equally about all of its members.

Looking at your argument then you can say that legacies should have crappy pay for 1-5 captain rates since no one will be on them. Why distribute the money amongst a scale that no one uses. On the contrast we should argue that we will have plenty of people on that scale and therefore make it more relevant.