Originally Posted by
Bluedriver
Total career value when comparing peer compensation, benefits, work rules and seniority progression shouldn't be dependant on where you live. Sure, as part of YOUR PERSONAL calculus, fine. But when making statements about how we compare in general, I don't except your special circumstances.
Great, your an in-base guy so making less apples-to-apples works for you, because you can trade QOL for actual pay and career progression.
I get why you think it's great, and that's fine for you. You may not like my critical posts of the current direction of our careers, but I personally feel that if we have 3,700 pilots all just delighted to be making less and giving this place 110% of our good-will, the company will literally see no reason "whatsoever" to give us a more competitive contract and in a timely fashion 3 years from now.
Delta will be starting full blown negotiations soon. I would love for you to go on their forum and tell them not be disgruntled if they don't make pay in-line with the top employers in our market, and that they should be satisfied that the paychecks keep coming and to live within their means. You may think I'm a Richard, but I think it would be eye-opening to see what a group of pilots with self-esteem have to say about that!
We're good dude, I just think we see things differently.
Total career value, when you work for the airlines, absolutely 100% depends on where you live. Sucks, but that's the road we've chosen.
I don't think you have to be worried about 3,700 people all giving 110%, it's been a long time since I've flown with someone who goes out of their way to help the company, myself included. I posted a whole list of things I wanted to see to be a yes vote... they didn't happen, obviously. I attended the picket, signed up for the second one.
I hear what you're saying, but I make it work for me, and there are people who can do that who don't necessarily want to move for the job. It's a hit I take, I get it. Be disgruntled, be unhappy with the company if you choose, I'm just saying, you'll live a better life if you don't take it home with you.
Was going to write more, but it'd just be regurgitation that we both know. We're absolutely good, and not even sure that we're that far off in what we think, but maybe how we deal with it.
Tex