HP, I'm going to guess you are an FO, not a Captain. He was asking how long reserve would be once you upgrade. Since any new hire that is able to upgrade is going to have years of people upgrade in front of them into the CA seat, any CA that upgrades from the lower part of the seniority, is just going to watch their seniority drop as the 2017 and then the 2018 hires get their 121 hours to upgrade, putting them in perpetual reserve.