Originally Posted by
Baradium
You went from "I didn't think they needed to" straight to "they don't need to." Hopefully it makes sense now why that isn't the case. You aren't free of duty when they notify you of the trip that can't report 10-12 hrs out on day 1 (specifically the required notification at midnight via phone even if you are allowed to do so on your off time prior to that to stop the call).
What are you talking about? Do you think your rest ends at 23:59 (assuming a single X day for example)? Because there is no "mandatory notification" at 00:00. You can't get anything before 10AM on your first day on. Period. And there is no obligation to even have your phone on during that time. Period. You are 100% free from any and all obligations. That's how I understand it and how it was explained to me by literally everyone (company schedulers, union reps and DALPA scheduling ninjas, etc). You can, at your leisure, check your schedule anytime, but a single X day is always at least 34 hours off. If that's not the case and your version is correct, then we have a lot of pilots flying illegally.