Originally Posted by gloopy

What callout period are you talking about? I'm not referring to the last 12 hours of one's LC. Obviously, if you're not released for your last 12 hours before an off day, those 12 hours can't be considered rest. However you will still get over 30 hours of rest with zero obligation from a single day off because you can't get an assignment prior to 10AM or Noon. So you'll always get 34 or 36 hours of rest with a single day off, regardless of if scheduling marks it R or not.

Originally Posted by Baradium

As far as I'm aware, scheduling is ensuring 30 hrs otherwise so no, we don't have pilots flying illegally. Nice job trying to make it a "are you saying EVERYONE is busting FARs" question though.

Your long call reserve period starts at 0001 and the FAA has already said that time on long call is not rest. Just because the first assignment can't be until a long call callout (that is reduced first day if assigned enough in advance) does not make it rest any more than 30hrs without a long call assignment during a work period would reset your rest clock. There is no difference between the two. A single X day does mean a minimum of 34 hrs before your next assignment but it does not give you a 30hr rest period.

Since "literally everyone" told you it's at least 34 hrs off... why don't you ask them about it. Period.

Just to make this perfectly clear, under your logic, if you worked 5 days of long call without an assignment you would be legal for a 4 day trip since you never had to answer the phone.

Furthermore, Section 23.S.3.a of the PWA states that a pilot on long call "must be available for contact by crew scheduling at any time while on call." The exception is that you are not contactable for 12 hrs before the report of an assignment from long call. No assignment means no release from being contactable.

So yes, you do have an obligation to have you phone on when long call and no assignment. In practice that means you just have to check messages and consider that rest started from 12 hrs prior to assignment.

Now since you listed all the people who told you that it would count as a 30hr rest period... you really should ask some of them to confirm that. I will be shocked if a single one does.