Originally Posted by V1 McFlyerson

Exactly, and that's where it gets not a sales job - but a sales job. If anyone thinks it's just unbiased information and numbers reporting then I'd encourage you to pull your head out of the sand and admit to yourself that you're fine with voting in a substandard contract for Frontier pilots. Just admit it! The union too! That's what the union is REALLY saying with the Calculator of D00M, anyway.

If they came back with 5% then I'd vote that contract down too. Never did see Own-occupation, 15% dc, 10%-15% rate increases over x months calculation.

I might even soften my stance if the union/company would be real about what an underwhelming and disappointing TA they're going to have us vote on. But slapping this these bullet points on the table, adding pbs, and telling us it's a market rate TA, has caused them to lose all credibility. They're full of pronghorn dung.